Welcome to the Neighborhood, Mr. Mayor
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 Chrysippus |
Welcome to the Neighborhood, Mr. Mayor |
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 4290 (06/28/09 12:57 PM) |
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 1687 (06/28/09 4:15 PM) |
Well, Chrys, I do like the letter and the sentiment expressed. But take a look at the condition of the sidewalks in the neighborhood. Do you realize how
easily the Mayor/future Governor could scuff up his Gucci's if he walked those streets? I think it is probably best if he just hop into a Hummer 3 and let
the security detail drive him to Room 200 and not dally around the Haight.
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 1010 (06/28/09 10:24 PM) |
I use Masonic to 17th Street, then Clayton, to get to Market/Portola. It's a tight fit right outside Newsom's new home, with one lane in either
direction and parked cars causing slow going. I'm dreading the increase in traffic and double-parking.
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Posts: 1867 (06/29/09 6:57 AM) |
San Francisco has always had transients, down-and-out folk and those living just outside the law. It is and has always been a place for outcasts. Especially in
certain neighborhoods. It is a city afterall. That's not to excuse the excessive degradation of the QOL. But at a certain point if you just can't take
it anymore, you move. That is also a time honored position.
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Chrysippus |
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 4290 (06/29/09 7:32 AM) |
FogU2,
Stop making excuses for the failures of the status quo. If we adopted your "time honored position," we'd all still be living in caves and eating each other for lunch. 
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 127 (06/30/09 6:45 AM) |
Fogu, I don't understand the reasoning behind telling people who have invested time and energy into their neighborhood that they need to move, in order to
make room for an ever changing army of transients that come here to trash the neighborhood. Are you also telling the multitude of young families who have moved
to the Haight that they have no right to raise their children there or that the growing elderly population has no right to live out their old age unfettered in
the neighborhood that they have, for years, called their own?
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Posts: 1867 (07/01/09 6:38 AM) |
Movement: San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom and his wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, finally moved into their new home in the upper Haight over the weekend - only to have someone promptly defecate and urinate on their doorstep.Rusty, I'm not saying he has to move. But at a certain point that kind of personal decision makes sense to me. I am a neighborhood activist who has had success ridding my former neighborhood of hookers and drugs dealer. But it also came at great personal expense. I subsequently moved to spend my time doing things other than being the neighborhood Sisyphus. And I've succeeded in gettting things done in my new neighborhood. Perhaps Chrysippus should change his name to Sisyphus. We live in a city that is currently shaped by people accepting of what many consider unacceptable and deviant behavior. Perpetually fight them if you wish but it will come at great personal expense. If we only have one life, do you want to live your entire one doing that? I don't. You may see that as a noble pursuit but the truth is that there are many things that can be accomplished in many places.
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 571 (07/01/09 7:46 AM) |
I wonder if the Mayor will have his top secret security detail clean up the poop (on OT of course).
What Fogu2 brings up is the huge basic cost of civil engagement - I completely understand and have suffered similarly, on a personal and business level due to my outspoken opinions on a variety of city wide topics - but what is the alternative? First they came after the Gypsies, but I was not a gypsy, so I said nothing...and when they came for me there was noone left. IMHO, It is the painful RESPONSIBILITY of the sober adults in our community to do everything within their power to take back control of our house, to act as the parents in a disfunctional home which has been taken over by a bunch of petulant spoiled foster children reared in some new aged style that rewards failure, allows eggregious behavior and does nothing to encourage responsibility. The 25 year old renter/employee/pot-head/cyclist has taken our live-and-let-live city and turned it into his personal candy store with absentee parents that sign blank checks for teeth-rotting sweet-sounding solutions out of guilt and seem to be willing to do anything to buy their childrens' love rather than earn their respect and do what is right for our family by making tough choices and using the word, "ENOUGH" once in a while. Sure, if you're not a liberal when you're 20 you have no heart, but if you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no brain, and the sophomores are currently running the campus. The inmates have taken over the asylum, and the administration has thrown up its hands and called it democracy. Bullshit! We need to defeat any tax increases in November. We need to demand civil service reform (read salaries, work rules, OT, health care and pensions). We need to end district elections, again. We need to pay attention to our own local economy, and things to do to help it grow, otherwise everyone loses. |
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 4290 (07/01/09 9:50 AM) |
From today's Matier & Ross -
"San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom and his wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, finally moved into their new home in the upper Haight over the weekend - only to have someone promptly defecate and urinate on their doorstep. Welcome to the neighborhood, Gav!" |
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Chrysippus |
The Privilege of Civilization | ||
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 4290 (07/01/09 4:40 PM) |
"Rusty, I'm not saying he has to move. But at a certain point that kind of personal decision makes sense to
me."
- FogU2 You apparently have more money than I. I don't begrudge you your affluence. But I have no choice but to stay and fight. |
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 946 (07/01/09 5:03 PM) |
I don't like the guy, but defecating and urinating at his door! That is really f&*&d up!
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 5348 (07/01/09 5:15 PM) Administrator |
Unless, of course, it was staged.
That's a little joke.
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Posts: 1867 (07/01/09 6:49 PM) |
You apparently have more money than I. Chrys, I admire your willingness to fight. My comment on your predicament is really meant in honesty. The same forces that allow you to stay (rent control) and not actively seek reasonable employment are the same forces that allow and promote the street denizens you despise. You have made your bed but now are bitter about having to lie in it. That's unfortunate but the truth is you do have choices, you just refuse to take them. IMO there is a personal shelf life to fighting neighbor blight. Once it is past the expiration date you either accept it, change strategies and tactics or move on. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is...... |
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Ward Heeler
Posts: 4290 (07/01/09 7:47 PM) |
FogU2,
You know very little about the personal circumstances of my life. It is presumptuous of you to draw any conclusions based on such ignorance. People who fight to maintain basic standards of civilization in their neighborhoods should not be scoffed at. We all deserve better than that. |
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